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Anomaly in FMP indexing

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Mick Loney
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Anomaly in FMP indexing

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Searching for a baptism on FMP in Warrington, I restricted the search to Lancashire, and all that came up was a transcription for the person concerned. Changing the restriction to Cheshire however, brought up the same christening, in the same church as before, but also with an associated image!

I know Warrington vacillated between Cheshire and Lancashire, but you’d think FMP would remain consistent.

So if you’re looking for a PR image, make sure you try both counties. It may also work for other places sitting on a border between two counties :lol:
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AdrianBruce
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

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I wonder if it's something to do with the Warrington baptisms being part of the "Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911" collection?

The original PRs for Warrington (a bit of hand-waving over what that covers) are at Chester RO - and I'm not sure why. Unless they were accessioned after 1974 when Cheshire gained its Rugby League areas such as Warrington? That would make a sort of sense. The Chester Diocese stuff on FMP gets associated with Cheshire. But maybe the transcript came from FamilySearch, or whatever, who'd previously associated it with Lancashire?

So maybe the potential for confusion comes when a parish changed counties over the years...
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Mick Loney
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

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Adrian,
The digital images for St Elphin’s used to be freely available to view and download on Familysearch via their catalog search. Sadly, fs must have ‘sold’ the images, because they are no longer available on-line, only at Family History centres :cry:
jonwarrn
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

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FamilySearch - Parish registers for St. Elphin's, Warrington
Of the 26 microfilms, 23 can be viewed at home. Images downloadable.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/725716

They also have the BTs
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/560911

To download BT images, you can use their image viewer.
https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/
Mick Loney
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

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Jonwarrn,
With the microfiche symbol, I perhaps wrongly assumed they were no longer viewable on line, because the camera symbol had disappeared.

I’ll try again :D

EDIT
Weird, I followed your link, signed in and the camera symbol was back, I can’t explain it, but thanks for the link
Mick Loney
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

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Mick Loney wrote: 14 May 2024, 17:04 Jonwarrn,
With the microfiche symbol, I perhaps wrongly assumed they were no longer viewable on line, because the camera symbol had disappeared.

I’ll try again :D

EDIT
Weird, I followed your link, signed in and the camera symbol was back, I can’t explain it, but thanks for the link
Something really weird is going on. Following John’s link, after signing in I can see the parish, with a camera icon against each batch. However, going to the same page by my normal route, after signing in, I can still see the parish as before, but this time there is a microfiche icon instead of the camera icon.
I’ll have to investigate this, perhaps deleting my cookies and starting from scratch.

Anyone have any other suggestions? All welcome

NB as I already had the transcriptions, I was able to quickly go through the PR’s to get my images. Sadly this triggered a message from FS, who thought I was possibly a bot :D
Thunder
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Re: Anomaly in FMP indexing

Post by Thunder »

Mick Loney wrote: 13 May 2024, 18:11 Searching for a baptism on FMP in Warrington, I restricted the search to Lancashire, and all that came up was a transcription for the person concerned. Changing the restriction to Cheshire however, brought up the same christening, in the same church as before, but also with an associated image!

I know Warrington vacillated between Cheshire and Lancashire, but you’d think FMP would remain consistent.

So if you’re looking for a PR image, make sure you try both counties. It may also work for other places sitting on a border between two counties :lol:
I think the same applies to places in Cumbria (ex-Cumberland) which were originally in Lancashire.
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