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Planned destruction of wills by Ministry of Justice

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Thunder
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Planned destruction of wills by Ministry of Justice

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Researchers should be aware of this proposal.


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/easi ... ment-plans

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/1 ... g-history/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ay-experts


I have complained to the Ministry of Justice pointing out that these proposals are appalling. It is a well-known fact that paper records last longer than digital records which rely on equipment that may not exist in the future. The cost of storing these wills at £4.5 million is a drop in the ocean of finance, you could transfer the wills to The National Archives after a set period of time.

As for historical people it is well-known that Royal Family wills including Diana, Princess of Wales,' are not released to the public and have not been for 100 years, who is going to make the judgement on what is a historical person, who decides if Winston Churchill's will will be transferred and where?. Have these proposals been discussed with The National Archives?. This is the thin edge of the wedge, it is known that the Ministry of Defence planned to destroy the service records of British Army servicemen from the Second World War but MOD have changed their mind and transferred the records to The National Archives. We need the archive world to oppose this madcap scheme.

TNA have a series (PROB 1) of wills but only of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury and which ends in 1854 (Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Wills of Selected Famous Persons).
Thunder
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Re: Planned destruction of wills by Ministry of Justice

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There is a petition for Parliament to stop this crazy and destructive plan is stopped. We need to get another 9000 or so signatures to get it discussed in Parliament.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/654081
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I've just received an email from a contact who has had recent experience of modern (ie c2020) wills being incorrectly digitised thereby highlighting the problem. Once destroyed there's no going back. And we all know that computerised systems aren't 100% reliable, don't we. I'll be signing the petition.
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Thank you for signing the petition. TNA have decided this is nothing to do with them!!. Many years ago details of Civil Service pensions were put on microfilm and the original files destroyed but after a few years the microfiche faded and the microfilms had to be copied and put back into paper form.
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I have just signed the Petition against the destruction of Wills. I run two Family History groups locally so I will encourage everyone to do likewise. It is important to prevent this. If it went ahead, what would be next?
Thunder
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Brunes08 wrote: 26 Jan 2024, 22:37 I have just signed the Petition against the destruction of Wills. I run two Family History groups locally so I will encourage everyone to do likewise. It is important to prevent this. If it went ahead, what would be next?
Thank you. As you say what next set of records would be digitised and the originals lost. We know what happens when departments decide what records to keep, you only have to look at the wilful destruction of more than 20,000 files at the Treasury whilst TNA stood back and did nothing, shame on them.
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Brunes08 wrote: 26 Jan 2024, 22:37... If it went ahead, what would be next?
Absolute doom suggestion from me, not specifically intended to scare people but... Could someone carry out a similar exercise on BMD certificates? :(
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We will now see what the MoJ do, will they ignore researchers?. I would really like to see what TNA said to them!!.
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